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Selectmen Want Meeting with Immigration Officials

The board is also concerned by people who hire illegal immigrants.

The domino effect of illegal immigration, brought to the forefront most recently by the death of Milford 23-year-old , has selectmen seeking a meeting with immigration officials and reviewing options to keep residents and businesses from employing undocumented workers.

In response to correspondence with government officials about the town’s support of the , Selectman Brian Murray went a step further, earning the support of his board to request a meeting with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

“We need to have officials from ICE here…we need to explain to them in very explicit and frank terms what’s going on in the town of Milford,” Murray said. “Milford police cannot deport anybody; the Board of Selectmen cannot deport anyone. ICE can. For some reason, there’s a disconnect here.”

Negative sentiment against the federal government’s seemingly lax immigration policies has run high since Nicolas Guaman was arrested in the death of the Denice, who was riding his motorcycle home Aug. 20, when Guaman , dragging him a quarter mile to his death. Guaman had a previous in Milford, and many have argued that if he were deported after his initial brushes with the law, Denice would still be alive.

Murray noted that a passenger in Guaman’s truck the night of the fatal crash was also an illegal immigrant, taken into custody by ICE officials and released days later.

“To me, it’s just unimaginable that the federal authority would have an illegal and not take action upon that individual,” Murray said.

Selectman William Buckley supported Murray’s request to meet with ICE, and also asked the board to seek a larger meeting with legislators, Ecuador's consul general in Boston and the Denice family.

He also said the town needs to look within its borders for issues that exacerbate the illegal immigration problem: namely, the hiring of illegal immigrants.

“I would like to ask (town) counsel to provide an information sheet that educates residents what they’re allowed to do...to ensure they’re hiring people that are legally able to work in this country,” Buckley said. “Hiring (certain) contractors, roofers, plumbers…that can be part of the problem. Some hire neighbors as contractors; the next thing they know there are people suddenly on their property doing the work who don’t speak English. The work gets subcontracted.”

If employers weren’t offering work to illegal immigrants, Buckley said, “I’m not sure how big a problem Milford would have.”

Concern about illegal immigration in Milford isn’t new; in fact, selectmen said, they met with ICE officials several years ago.

“When we talk about all these things (issues surrounding illegal immigration), very rarely are we talking about situations where people are dying in our community,” Buckley said. “This is the third such case in recent years.” 

mary ellen burke September 13, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Party time in Massachusetts for illegals...Free rein everywhere! http://www.enterprisenews.com/answerbook/bridgewater/x948305958/Illegal-immigrant-charged-with-drunken-driving-in-Bridgewater
mary ellen burke September 13, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Call house judiciary which is soon to vote on e-verify bill.
Jim Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 01:49 AM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM It's just a matter of time....deaths to follow.
Mack Long September 14, 2011 at 03:38 AM
You can thank the Elitist Politicians for their Sanctuary City and State Policies. Drugs furnished by the ILLEGALS, Drug Wars by the ILLEGALS, United States Citizens murdered by the ILLEGALS but not to worry the Sanctuary Citiies and States will continue to furnish Cheap ILLEGAL Labor for the Elitist Political Contributors and Special Interest Groups of course they feel safe in their Gated Communities. If you venture out and you are murdered by an ILLEGAL Drunk Driver or you are a Police Officer murdered by an ILLEGAL during the commission of a crime or a traffic stop or a United States Citizen is in the 'wrong' place (any Sanctuary City or State) and caught in the cross fire just remember Our Elitist Politicians and their Elitist Political Contributors consider those murdered as a SMALL SACRIFICE for THEIR CHEAP LABOR/potential votes.
Joe Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 04:52 AM
Joe Rizoli CCFIILE.com The Milford police have this "new" license plate scanner. Use it to find out WHO own the cars and WHO is insuring the cars of these illegals. Also, when businesses come before the Selectmen ASK whether the businesses conforms with all USA immigration laws as to them as owners of WHO they hire in that business. This will set a precedent and will force the businesses to either tell the truth about their business practices of they will have to lie, which could mean some sort of sanction towards that businesses in the future. Joe Rizoli
Jim Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 01:49 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM If you think the Milford Policed are going get more involved in keeping the illegals away think again. They will only go so far because the Chief doesn't want to upset the applecart. He feels he has no jurisdiction over the illegals here because it's a "Federal" matter. Bank robbery is a "Federal" issue too, but the police are there to arrest these types of people working in the area. I find the police are ineffective at doing their job, and the towns people should be livid about it. The next killing might get them to step one, as it is now they are sitting in the background collecting their pay. Maybe you should hire some security guards from EMC to patrol the street they might do a better job. Or the ticket checkers at the school dance.
Tom OLoughlin September 14, 2011 at 04:05 PM
Mr Rizoli, thank you for calling me a “nice guy”. I didn’t tell you “there is nothing we can do”. As we discussed, local police do not enforce Federal law and immigration is a Federal responsibility. You argued local police should stop illegal immigrants because they do not have constitutional rights. After giving you a hypothetical, perplexed you conceded they do have constitutional protections. I explained that police must have probable cause to stop a vehicle and that you can register a vehicle without a license or SS#. An issue I have been trying to address for 10 years. I explained that I have been attempting to get secured communities since 2007, only to be blocked by the State. Now from your armchair in Framingham you state that the Milford Police are not keeping the community safe. You rebut my previous statements indicating that both Federal and local police investigate bank robberies. The Federal Government insures banks so it is a Federal crime. Robbery is also a State crime regardless of whether or not it is a bank. Please offer real solutions, other than personal attacks and empty comments such as local police are not keeping the community safe; to do otherwise is to live up to your quote: "there is nothing we can do". Tom OLoughlin Chief of Police
mary ellen burke September 14, 2011 at 06:38 PM
Something like this from Police might be a good start; Shttp://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/8953-border-group-obama-amnesty-contempt-for-law
Jim Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 07:05 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM Mary Ellen This is the correct link....the S doesn't belong in front of the http http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/8953-border-group-obama-amnesty-contempt-for-law
Jim Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 07:05 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM Chief Oloughlin People are dying what can I say. So desperate measures have to be taken. Unless you attempt to take drastic measures people will continue to die. I don't have to defend myself, offer solutions, whatever, you are the one that has to answer for the people dying. You are the one that has to offer the solutions, because your the protector of the community not me. I don't care what you do, just stop people from dying....then we can agree. You town has three deaths on the list, and more to come. If three deaths in a community is keeping the community safe then your community is not the one I would feel safe in. You might want to have a meeting with the town's people and get their input. That might lead you in the right direction.
Tom OLoughlin September 14, 2011 at 08:28 PM
Mr. Rizoli, When you utilize the term "desparate measures" what you mean is that I should go and get "them" regardless of whether I have the authority to do so and if necessary trample upon their constitutional and civil rights because the end justifies the means so long as your rights are not being abrogated. You are correct you do not have to offer any solutions for societal problems, particularly in the Town of Milford. Therefore, I believe that I should consider your criticisms and comments to be nothing more than noise in the wind because by your own calculation you are not offering anything of substance. The men and women of the Milford Police Department provide professional services and protection to the community. Along with the Chairman of the Board of Selectmen and other Town officials, I meet with residents of the community neighborhood by neighborhood to listen to and address their concerns. It sounds like these are measures that you should spearhead in Framingham. Tom OLoughlin Chief of Police
Jim Rizoli September 14, 2011 at 09:19 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM Chief OLoughlin, This issue has to do with safety of the residents.....So my thoughts are... you have to make sure those who are driving in your town are authorized to do so. Whatever measure it takes to do that has to be done. Since when is Constitutional rights an issue here....Ever hear of the Patriot Act? Funny how the Govt. can trample on our rights on that issue and turn a blind eye to safety of the citizens on this one. The illegals seem to have more rights than us American Citizens. How can that be? Tom, you seem like a good guy and I feel bad putting you in the middle of this but something has to be done and your the top man who has the most say. The Selectmen should be listening to you if it comes time to get tough. Find out who's driving these cars (illegally) and go after them. don't wait until another causality comes on. In regards to Framingham....Framingham is one big ball of corruption and IMO a dead town. the illegals have won, but some of us are still in the trenches fighting them. The good news is we haven't had the deaths like Milford...If we did things would be different here. The Chief of police here isn't as gracious as you to hold a public hearing online as you are.
Myd Nevins September 14, 2011 at 11:21 PM
Considering the limited options and tools that the government have given the police to use, in all honesty, I think the Milford police are doing as good a job as they can with what they have. Deval, Obama, and Congress face far more blame in my opinion.
Jim Rizoli September 15, 2011 at 01:23 AM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM MYD....Your comment "Considering the limited options and tools that the government have given the police to use, in all honesty, I think the Milford police are doing as good a job as they can with what they have. Deval, Obama, and Congress face far more blame in my opinion" This really isn't the blame game....it's a matter of your house needs work and you have to take care of it yourself. Each town is responsible for themselves and to look at the Federal or State Govt's to help you is wishful thinking. Let's get our own houses in order before we blame those not living here.
Myd Nevins September 15, 2011 at 01:37 AM
Actually, all I've seen you do is throw blame around. And isn't Framingham your house? While I'm completely against illegals, I just don't see you coming up with any solid answers. I'm beginning to feel that you are more focused on inciting rebellion than solving the problem. Milford doesn't need a dangerous mob mentality.
Jim Rizoli September 15, 2011 at 02:46 AM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM MYD, I have plenty of solutions the problem is no one is listening. In regards to inciting "Rebellion"......When the Patriots threw the tea into the harbor what would you call that? Time to throw the tea into the harbor here. Our country has been Hijacked by Anti-American forces..... time to take our country back. Sorry to say....There really is no nice way of doing it.
mary ellen burke September 15, 2011 at 03:17 AM
Jim, Unfortunately you are right and it is beginning to look like nothing will stop this invasion. I do have to say I often wonder how police can continue to work under a double standard that allows those that don't belong here to be afforded more favorable treatment than those of us citizens. Recently there were riots in Salem Ma over 4th of July and the crowd of illegal hispanics attacked police with fireworks etc. What does it have to take until people and law enforcement get totally fed up with this insanity. There are cartels and gangs in almost every city in America now and soon most of America will be like L.A. and California which many say resembles a third world country. La Raza marches in the streets and nothing happens and Obama is handing this country over to them and anyone else who saunters into the country. Law abiding people are still trying to change this through law, the Judiciary will try and pass the E-verify bill this week. Those that care about their children and grandchildren should call the congressmen on that committee and demand they pass this bill. Meantime Obama ignores the rule of law for which he should be impeached. It Boggles the mind how people are allowing their country to be destroyed.!
Tom OLoughlin September 15, 2011 at 02:51 PM
Mr. Rizoli, In response to your question, “since when is Constitutional rights and issue here”, the answer is since the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States and the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights were adopted. Every action that a police officer takes under the color of law must be in conformance with the Constitution of the United States and the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights. This includes stopping and detaining motorists. That said, the Milford Police Department issued almost 1200 criminal complaints for operating without a license over the past 4 years; that amounts to the lawful issuance of a criminal complaint every 36 hours. With regard to the Patriot Act, Congress did grant certain investigatory and enforcement rights to Federal officials. Please know that the Board of Selectmen, State Representative and State Senator in Milford have been supportive of the Police Department and other Town Departments in addressing concerns about illegal immigration and as we address quality of life issues and concerns in the neighborhoods. In fact, administrators from ICE have attended meetings in Milford at three times since 2004 at the behest of the Board of Selectmen, the State Senator and/or the State Representative. Tom O’Loughlin Chief of Police
Tom OLoughlin September 15, 2011 at 02:53 PM
Ms. Mary Ellen Burke, Thank you for your support for the local police. Please know that the Milford Police are not “working under a double standard that allows those that don’t belong here to be afforded more favorable treatment than those of us citizens”. As MYD said in their posting above, the local police are utilizing the “tools” or authority that is granted to us as a matter of law. The standard that guides police officers in Milford is the State Law and the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States and the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights. These laws and rights apply to everyone. The role of the police officer is to prefer charges to the Court and to testify or provide information to the Court on behalf of the Commonwealth; thereafter the judgment is that of the Court. Clearly as you stated, E-Verify like Secured Communities is a Federal Program that will assist ICE in applying their limited resources in and efficient and effective manner. Tom OLoughlin
mary ellen burke September 15, 2011 at 05:30 PM
Congress? Who needs 'em...Not the Dictator in Chief Obama; President Obama told a Hispanic group in Washington Wednesday that when it comes to the issue of immigration, "I'd like to work my way around Congress." http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-id-work-my-way-around-congress
Jim Rizoli September 15, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM Chief Oloughlin, I support the police up to a point. When you have the illegals making you look like fools, that's where I draw the line. These illegals laugh and deride you guys as they drive by you. Nice to have a job where people show no respect for you ....but I guess it comes with the territory. The illegals here actually think Americans are stupid. Can you blame them? Just look at what they get away with.
mary ellen burke September 16, 2011 at 04:10 PM
Milford wants immigration help After fatal crash, town is on edge http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/09/16/milford_seeks_federal_help_on_illegal_immigration/?comments=all#readerComm People who break the law should be fearful. That's the point of making laws, to prevent illegal behavior. These people have broken the law in so many ways they do NOT deserve sympathy. Why does the media continually sympathize with lawbreakers and ignore the American citizens who respect the law? The Boston Globe has been an advocate for this type of lawbreaking for a very long time and bears much of the fault for the current illegal situation in the state and the country. PS Dear Chief, I hope you realize your job is about to get a lot harder as some states crack down on the illegal invasion . Some will return home but many ,many of them will travel here to MA where they will be aided and abetted by our lawless Governor who promises sanctuary for lawbreakers. .I already see an influx in southeast MA. Get ready.
Jim Rizoli September 16, 2011 at 07:21 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM The Milford Chief is already making plans to have some of them live at his house...LOL Got to make them as comfortable as you can...wouldn't want to be charged with trying to make the town a save place to live. I mean, think about it...the illegals have no fear of the police, the police are more fearful of the illegals. Hmmmm...... who runs this town?
mary ellen burke September 16, 2011 at 09:20 PM
It ain't run by American citizens .
Charlie Schnapps September 16, 2011 at 09:28 PM
I have been following this conversation and I can stay silent no more. Mr. Rizoli, dont you live in Framingham? I am shocked our police chief took the time to respond to you because its obvious you just want to pick fights and poke fun. I respect that you are passionate about this issue but it is absolutely foolish to suggest that a police chief who lives in the town he works would not want to keep his community safe. I will probably regret responding to you but someone had to say something.
mary ellen burke September 16, 2011 at 10:31 PM
"I have been following this conversation and I can stay silent no more" If only more would break their silence over what is happening to our state and our country from this invasion.
Joe Rizoli September 17, 2011 at 07:06 AM
Joe Rizoli CCFIILE.com When the Ecuadorian Consulate was at that Milford meeting, people ASKED the Consulate what he could do to help. Shouldn't have happened that way. The American Citizens INCLUDING the police chief should have laid down the LAW SAYING, WE DON'T WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN OUR TOWN...PERIOD. Imagine asking a bank robber what he can do to stop bank robberies. The foxes have taken over the hen house people. Lastly, Framingham and Milford seem to have the NO MEETING with American Citizens routine. In other words, have a meeting where AMERICAN CITIZENS SPEAK and tell you how illegal immigrants impact their lives, their communities. It seems the towns ALWAYS kowtow to the ILLEGALS concerns. It shows you WHO really runs the towns, The Brazilians are so arrogant in our town they ADMIT they are illegal.to even the Department of Justice Representative, local police, State Reps and everyone else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1bRvqrJQrs They are NOT afraid of the LAW officials anymore. Not good...... Joe Rizoli
Jim Rizoli September 17, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM It seems to me all the meetings are for the benefit of the illegals not the American Citizens. What should of been done was to ask the Consulate to do whatever they could to stop the illegals from coming, What country is this, theirs or ours.
mary ellen burke September 18, 2011 at 03:24 AM
Hey, any odds on this guy will find his way back to this country, maybe to the state as a guest of Devals;same last name as Matt Denices killer; http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/accused-killer-of-mom-son-may-be-released-soon-from-jail-in-ecuador-20110916?obref=obinsite
mary ellen burke September 18, 2011 at 03:56 AM
Read: Our Silence Enables the Invasion of America http://oneoldvet.com/?p=32414#more-32414

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