Milford Could Join Congressional District Held by Frank [Poll]

U.S. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Newton) would represent Milford, under revised congressional districts approved by a state redistricting committee Monday.

Milford could soon be in the Fourth Congressional District, currently represented by Barney Frank (D-Newton).

A week after Gov. Deval Patrick signed off on , the Special Joint Committee on Redistricting released maps Monday re-drawing the state's congressional districts, which have shrunk from 10 to nine districts due to population shifts. For approval, the new districts must be adopted by the full House and Senate before Nov. 16.

To view the new map (and the old map) see the images on the right.

In the new maps, Frank's district would cover Needham, Medfield and Walpole, which are currently in the state's Ninth District represented by Democrat Stephen Lynch. The district will also take other Norfolk County towns including Plainville, Wrentham, Franklin, Medway (currently in the Third District) and part of Bellingham (currently in the Second District).

Milford and Hopedale (Worcester County) as well as Hopkinton (Middlesex County) will also shift into the Fourth District. Those towns are currently represented by U.S. Rep. Jim McGovern (D-3rd) or U.S. Rep. Richard Neal (D-Springfield). 

Meanwhile, the Fourth District will lose a large part of Southern Bristol County and East Plymouth County, including New Bedford, Dartmouth, Westport, Acushnet, Wareham, Middleborough, Marion, Rochester, Mattapoisett, Halifax and part of Fall River, which will all now be a part of a newly-drawn Ninth District. 

As the Boston Globe reported today, the new Ninth District has created a bit of a snag with two current representatives — South Boston-based U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch and U.S. Rep. William Keating, of Quincy — as the two Democrats could face off against each other for control of a district.

Tina Rodgers-Lunardi November 08, 2011 at 02:11 AM
Ugh, Barney Frank....no way.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 02:54 AM
I definitely spend more time east of Milford than west. I think this could be good. And I like Barney Frank!
Jim Calarese November 08, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Let's see, Barney Frank representing me in Congress. Now there is a foreign concept. We live on different planets.
Beth Rayner-Zyskowski November 08, 2011 at 12:30 PM
NO NO NO NO NO! Are we getting Barney Frank because Bozo the Clown was unavailable? I DO NOT want this guy representing me. The only silver lining if this happens would be to vote with Joe Kane above and get this guy out of office. How do we stop this from happening?????
Theresa November 08, 2011 at 01:15 PM
@Joe Kane, you took the words out of my mouth. Why have a poll? Because He won't represent us, if we won't vote for him. The Democrats are in a much worse position than the polls will ever show. November 2012 is just one year away. Registered voters are going to look back on the last 4 years of their lives and vote accordingly.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 01:55 PM
I hope, next November, that voters will look over NOT ONLY the LAST FOUR YEARS of our lives, but OVER THE LAST TWELVE YEARS OF OUR LIVES. THINGS WERE SO MUCH WORSE UNDER THE DISHONEST BUSH REGIME. We are in wars we didn't want and can't escape--thank you George Bush and Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice. The shameless rich get richer, and the middle class gets poorer--thank you George Bush, Karl Rove, and their corporate chums. The Bush regime sent a healthy economy into a nosedive--and got out just before it tanked. I hope Americans will wake up to their traditional, longer-term goals of a nation at peace, respected in the world (above all for the way it respects its working citizens, its elderly and poor and those in need of health care), and healthy economically and politically. There's no comparison between President Obama and the cabal of cruel and dishonest Republicans whose damage he is still trying hard to control and correct.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 01:59 PM
Beth, I am so eager to hear something more than name-calling. Please tell us specifically what you don't like about Barney Frank. Why would you want him out of office? Your indignation we get, your loathing we get, but where are they coming from?
Theresa November 08, 2011 at 02:38 PM
My standard of living and job security has been completely wiped out in the past 4 years. This is reality, not conspiracy theories. The ill advised solutions from this current administration to our current economic problems, have completely failed to produce any lasting results. Here is a small off the top of my head list of failures. 1. The Stimulus I and II 2. ObamaCare 3. Cash for Clunkers 4. Stopping all oil productivity in the Gulf of Mexico 5. Solyndra (invisible green jobs and trillions wasted) And last but not least 6. FAST and FURIOUS, where the Obama Administration and Justice Department allowed over 2,000 guns to walk accross the Mexican boarder to the Drug Cartel, killing over 200 innocent Mexican Nationals and 2 U.S. Boarder agents, in a concerted effort to attack the Second Amendment and limit all of our freedom contained there within. I forgot to mention the Middle East has been taken over by radical Islamists and Iran has Nuclear capacity. I could go on and on but I'll stop where I started. My granchildren 2 and 7 weeks, will have to work till they are 70 years old to payoff China for the trillions of dollars of money Barak Obama and the Democratic Party has lifted from the taxpayers of this Glorious Beautiful Country I love so much. We can't take another 4 years of this much abuse.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 02:51 PM
A list is not a convincing argument. (For that reason, I will NOT list the lies about weapons of mass destruction, the cutting of taxes to the wealthiest Americans, the mishandling of Hurricane Katrina, etc. , etc., etc.) But I AM glad to see that we agree that it was FOUR years ago that the problem became very clear, and FOUR YEARS AGO that our standards of living were completely wiped out. In other words, in year seven of an eight-year Republican regime. Not a conspiracy theory, dear Theresa. Now, aren't you FOR health care for all? Especially if we will all have to work till we're 70???
UglyHat November 08, 2011 at 03:25 PM
Hi David – I’m not going to debate the merits of Barney vs. Bush or even Dem vs. Repub with you. It seems you have already made your decisions, which is great. I’m glad you have passion and are at least somewhat involved politically. But your last comment here is somewhat disingenuous. “Now, aren't you FOR health care for all? Especially if we will all have to work till we're 70???” A major concern of mine in the health care debate is the cost, and the fact that many people will not be paying anything for it. There are so many people that don’t work now and are living off of social handouts for generations. These people won’t work until they’re 70. Some will never have a real job. Others will work under the table their whole lives and not contribute to the social programs they benefit from. Health care for all would be great! Responsibility and accountability for all would be great too! I sincerely doubt we’ll ever have either.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 03:41 PM
Dear UglyHat-- And I do, in this case, mean "Dear" UglyHat. Interestingly enough, I am not being the least bit disingenuous when I ask people if they are for health care for all. I never cease to be amazed at how many people in America seem not to take this right for granted. I call it a right, and my amazement is partially aroused, because so many healthy (!) countries, England and France and Canada, have health care for all. It just seems to me that we must begin with the premise that everyone deserves health care, that it should be a priority--that, like education, it should be supplemented for all people by the communal funds, ahead of less fundamental projects. I am not FOR the abuse of a system--I believe that people should have the opportunity to work, and that they should contribute to the costs (IF THEY ARE PHYSICALLY ABLE). But until now, there is no system even to corrupt! The lazy and the undeserving have always found ways to get something for nothing; health care for all will change little for them. But what about children, the poor, the handicapped, the aged? I am FOR paying for them--it is our communal responsibility. People in this country have apparently forgotten the plight of the working (or WANTING to work) class here in America in the early 1930's. It WAS TERRIBLE, and a NATIONAL SHAME. So give me the health care, and THEN let me battle those who abuse it.
UglyHat November 08, 2011 at 04:02 PM
I believe you have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I do not believe you should have the right to free health care. If healthcare makes you happy, you have the freedom to pursue it. I understand this amazes you. Your view of this topic amazes me too. As for England, France and Canada I say good for them. If they have a health care system that works for them, I’m happy for them. And to your comment “So give me the health care, and THEN let me battle those who abuse it.”, I would love to share your faith in our government. But the reality is that fraud goes unchecked in Medicare, Medicaid, Fannie/Freddie/Sallie. I am not willing to hand over 1/6th of our economy to the feds and hope they battle the abuse later. It will not happen. I have had very few interactions with government services in my life that didn’t make me think what a waste of time and money. Passports, visas, drivers licenses, business forms, taxes, etc. Everything is much more involved than it needs to be. And the focus never seems to be on the customer. I’m just not willing to trust them with something so timely and important.
Jim Calarese November 08, 2011 at 04:16 PM
Excellent debate UglyHat and Dave. Keep it civil and keep it going.
Carolyn Hildebrand November 08, 2011 at 04:23 PM
Lord Help Us!!! Barney Frank and his buddy Chris Dodd are the ones responsible for the mortgage mess and the aftershock on the Real Estate market. He does not hold himself to the same standard he applies to "the people". This has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. I do NOT want Barney as MY Congressman. If the change is approved, he needs to go. Who is running against him, where can I sign up to help????
unclkebuck November 08, 2011 at 04:32 PM
Never fails to amaze me that when these folks have nothing left in the tank to argue with they revert to 'blame Bush.'
Scott November 08, 2011 at 04:46 PM
I would love to have the opportunity to vote against him.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 05:31 PM
Never fails to amaze me that when these folks have nothing at all in the tank to begin with, they revert to mocking the people who blame the people who have caused the problems: Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rove, etc.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Ah, a glimmer of actual reasoning behind this negative attitude toward Barney Frank. I don't agree with it--I don't think Barney Frank is at all responsible for the mortgage mess and the collapse of the Real Estate market--but I do like reading a post in which attitudes are supported with specific reasons, rather than simple expressions of anger or worse.
Scott November 08, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Hi David, Watch this video. Barney's involvment is undeniable. There simply is no argument. http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194210.php
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 06:45 PM
Hi Scott. In the spirit of open-mindedness, I did something that is difficult for me: I watched that three minutes of FoxNews that you linked. Aside from being a tendentiously constructed collage of decontextualized clips, and aside from suggesting, retroactively and rather hilariously, that the Republican Party is pro-oversight and pro-regulation (!), it was in many ways enlightening for me. Of course I accept that Bush pushed (without sufficient support from his own, REPUBLICAN party) for reform of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. It is one of many reasons why I do not, despite accusations to the contrary, think that Bush was all bad, and when I accuse Bush (as Time Magazine recently accused him, among the top 25 people they blame for the economic crisis—a list which does NOT include Barney Frank http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877339,00.html ) of responsibility for the country’s current mess, I usually try to name those members of his inner circle who are the tip of the iceberg of the guilty.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 06:47 PM
As an elected official, and one who held onto the notion that these enormous lending agencies should continue to receive support despite what MANY people, in BOTH parties--and many more NOW, with the benefit of hindsight-- agree were unpromising signs, Congressman Frank can be accused of trying to back something as a way of saving it--something we now realize couldn’t really be saved. But that does not add up to Congressman Frank , for all his lack of FORESIGHT (and I’m sure we agree that foresight is a fickle thing) on this one vital issue, being the cause, much less, morally or in political terms, being the main culprit in the economic crisis. Here are a few more enlightening links on this enormous topic. Thanks, you got me going. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-17/politics/30282869_1_real-estate-central-banks-securitization http://prospect.org/article/did-liberals-cause-sub-prime-crisis http://mediamatters.org/research/200901080022
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 06:52 PM
I am not at all clear, UglyHat, what you mean when you say that health care is somehow SEPARATE from the right to life (dependent on health care from the first moment), liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. An old person, a newborn child, a handicapped person SHOULD SOMEHOW PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES? Do you really believe that? wouldn't you agree that the family should at least share the responsibility? And what is a democracy--as conceived of by the great men who founded ours--if it is not, ideally, a brotherhood, a family of all citizens. Do you really think that a child--who is currently guaranteed by law and by OUR taxes, to be provided a public education--should NOT be guaranteed the benefits of basic, physically necessary, health care? We certainly do amaze each other. My faith in government is neither blind nor unwary, even if my own experiences with passports, visas, driver's licenses and such, have apparently been happier than yours (and my experiences in other countries have never made me envy them). But again, you identify the fraud that goes on WITHOUT universal health care. How is NOT having universal health care somehow BETTER? This is aside from the moral and practical issues raised by the image of an increasing number of people--your neighbors and mine--who cannot afford to pay their doctor bills. Too bad for them? TOO BAD FOR US ALL.
UglyHat November 08, 2011 at 06:57 PM
David - you write as though we’re living in the middle ages where children are born in the woods and the elderly are left as food for the animals. We already have programs for those that REQUIRE but cannot afford healthcare. They’re wildly underfunded due to government ineptitude and fraud, but they exist. Yes, I believe if you desire the services of a medical professional you should bear the responsibility and pay the cost of those services. If you want health insurance, you should pay for it yourself. Yes, I believe family members should help each other. But I don’t think family is defined by longitude and latitude. You are not a member of my family because we may be citizens of the same country. And there are many people in this country who are neither family nor citizens. I believe there is a place for the community to provide for the needy, and those programs exist as well. We are a very charitable society. But mostly David, I just don’t think the system they intend to implement will work. I think the politicians and the financial elite will still have access to extraordinary care and the rest of us will experience shortages of medical professionals, degraded medical care, longer wait times and much higher costs. So no, that is not what I want. I agree with Jim, this has been a good debate. But I think it will end as so many Hollywood marriages do – we seem to have irreconcilable differences.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 07:20 PM
But UglyHat! Your line, "But mostly David, I just don’t think the system they intend to implement will work" gives me real hope!! And also the fact that we agree that people should pay for their health insurance--I am for that, if they CAN pay for it--and by "pay for it," I mean if they are concomitantly provided with the possibility of work, and making enough through their work to pay for their care, and for the care of their families. Though HOW they pay for it--how WE pay for it--as a community or as individuals--you're right, on that we probably won't agree. Now as for those who CANNOT pay--I am afraid that it is your response that we are "charitable" (I agree) and that "those programs exist as well"--it is that dependence which sounds old-fashioned to me--in fact, it reminds me of the rhetoric of the early nineteen-thirties, as I said. That was a period when, like now, resources failed us, and people were NOT taken care of. I admit to some slight visionary excess when I describe this country as a brotherhood (though that language is as old as the nation). I never meant literally that your neighbor is your family (though it's a very difficult notion to give up). But shouldn't we all (that is, nationally) care when our neighbor (that is, ANY ONE OF US) needs help of the most basic kind, that is medical? Are you FOR public education, but AGAINST a similar system for the primal needs covered by health care (even though it, like education, will be subject to abuses)?
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 07:23 PM
Finally, with regard to my writing "as though we're living in the middle ages": I grew up in Detroit. I have lived, at various periods of my life, on the South Side of Chicago and on the UPPER Upper West Side of New York, as well as in Worcester... I know a little bit about the Middle Ages. But maybe you meant to compliment my stance?
UglyHat November 08, 2011 at 07:38 PM
I am not for public education (at the federal level) either. And even at the local level, I think the public education system would be better off with less government intrusion. But that is another topic all together.
David Nolta November 08, 2011 at 09:24 PM
I agree that it's another topic altogether, and once again raises the question of implementation. So that while the Federal Government has no constitutional sanction to educate or to guarantee education, it is the longstanding rule that EVERY CHILD in this country is entitled to an education. It is considered a natural and inalienable human right on the national and international level. I for one am glad for it, whatever level (state, local) administers it. And with No Child Left Behind, George Bush made a clear statement about Federal interest in the educational system.
David Nolta November 13, 2011 at 12:07 AM
Go Nancy Pelosi!!
Mary MacDonald (Editor) November 28, 2011 at 02:42 PM
Several media outlets are reporting that Barney Frank has decided, and will announce today, he will not seek re-election.
Jim Rizoli November 28, 2011 at 05:47 PM
At least part of America's problems are being dealt with, with him retiring that is. Jim@ccfiile.com


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