What's the worse that can happen to him....he gets deported.
He gets a FREE ride back home.
Not bad considering the crime. An American Citizen doing the same thing....jail time. In reality, an illegal can commit ANY type of crime and not have to worry too much about doing hard time.
Not that we want them in our prisons that cost 40 k per year or more to house them. Not to mention the health care cost.
Seems to me something is wrong with this picture. Oh, another point, that name sure sounds familiar.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Can't we all just get along? Seems to me if we could just accelerate the pace at which we are dumbing down America till we get to their third world standards, we could just accept this as "normal behavoir". Am I being too critical?

Jim (rizoli). I am disappointed in you.

This article came out at 8:49 and it took you almost 4 hours to make a comment. You, my friend, are slipping.

I wanted others to comment first......
Jim@ccfiile.com

and the name "Guaman" pops up yet again...

I don't get it. Is it all one big family? Or is "Guaman" a name like "Smith" in some parts of the world? Seriously.

According to the Daily News, he is the brother of the man who killed Matthew Denice.

@Mary...."I'm thinking of the man with the same last name who was charged in the killings in Brockton (who fled to Ecuador".
Isn't that nice...
What's up with all these folks gravitating to Milford.
Looks like the town has been targeted by them.
Some of you here might feel these people came here to start a good life....I think some of these people have no problems taking lives.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Mary, I was told by the court that in most parts of South America children take both the mother and fathers last name. In the case of Nicholas Dutan-Guaman, Dutan is the mothers last name and Guaman is the fathers last name. In the case of Nicholas Guaman the court records were changed to reflect both parents names.

I would suspect that if you were going to immigrate to a new country, especially one with a very different language and culture, you would go to an area where you had relatives or other people from your area of your native country as a support system. I would bet most of the Guaman's in Milford are related even if distant cousins.

Well one thing for sure - who will be the next victim at the hands of an unlicensed "drunk" illegal immigrant? See the Ecuadorians and Guatemalan's are uneducated, illiterate drunks who don't give a damn who they kill, in their country it is just another day of drinking excessively, knife fights, bottle smashing and running from the police. Now street smart they are, knowing our judicial system is a joke, worse case scenario ICE gives them a ticket back home where they catch the next van ride into Arizona. Until we make it illegal for U.S. employers to hire illegal immigrants this crap will continue and every 2 or 3 years another Milford U.S. citizen will be killed. Maybe we should have neighborhood watches armed with baseball bats, maybe after a couple of good beatings they will get a clue to get the heck out of here!

What occurs is similar to an "underground" railroad which extends from Milford, south to Arizona / New Mexico. Once they get here they have contacts that employ them and find them housing. In addition they receive the "illegal" code which tells them the do's and don'ts , how to avoid taxes, get food stamps and medical care, oh and the X driver license loop hole, plus registering and insuring vehicles. These guys are well prepared, although you can't understand a word they say, they know exactly what they are doing and how far they can go without being deported or arrested.

Hey Mary check this site out, just so you know my words are backed by data: http://www.desertinvasion.us/data/invasion_numbers.html

Not condoning anything....just putting in the information that I know. First off, generalizing a full group of people as uneducated is just plain wrong. There are different areas of Ecuador that are very different from the next. The group you are referring to are the Quechua which is an indian culture from the mountains of Ecuador (and other countries). Allowing people to refer to all Ecuadoreans as the same would be similar to other nations believing that we are all like the impoverished people of Appalachia. Second... they are not all related. There are a few VERY common last names.

There is someone choreographing this whole illegal alien mess.
The main person is hiding somewhere, because stuff like this doesn't happen by chance. Find the leader and you'll get your answer. There is a lot of money involved here, there is a slave trade of sorts making this happen.
In all the research I've done...that mob boss of illegals is out there I just don't know where. You have property that is owned, jobs that are provided, the whole thing is being run by someone. The Feds could break it open but chose not to.
I could break it open if I had the manpower to investigate it fully.
This is not a big deal, the people are there just do some good old investigation.
jim@ccfiile.com

This is ODD. I remember being at the barber's for my three-minute haircut, a few years back, and in casual conversation the barber said that "someone" is clearly "bringing" people from Ecuador to Milford. I still have no idea as to exactly what is going on, but I AM curious....

There is not ONE person bringing people here from Ecuador...many of them do not even come directly to Milford. Some go to CT or NY, many of them are here staying with family or friends and often parents save to send for their older teenage or adult children. I know many Ecuadorean families and they do not BELONG to anyone. They have come here looking for a life that is better than what they had in the mountains - which is nothing. They come here with visions of creating a better life for themselves. Many of them have very little education and have no prospects for the future in Ecuador and want better than that for their children. They want them to go to school and become something. I have heard their stories about how they came here and it was not paid for by some "illegal mob boss".

Concern....There is a slave trade of illegals coming here. How can these poor people afford to come here on what they make at home?
It cost $10,000 for them to come here. They are smuggled here and have to pay that money back with big interest. Someone is fronting them the money, and promising them the world.
So please exlain to me how that is "looking for a better life" If they don't pay the money back their family back home is threatened or killed.
Please explain to me how that is a good thing.
Imagine a poor person from the USA wanting to go to their country....how could they do it? They couldn't! Someone would have to give them the money too!
So Concerned......How do these poorer than poor people afford to come here?
Where do they get the money? Please answer me that BIG question.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Allowing these people to come to America is not helping the countries they leave. Families are broken up, marriages fall apart when these people come here through adultery and prostitution,. You tell me where that is good for any family. Having Illegals come here also brings what is called "brain drain" to the countries they leave. Those countries NEVER progress any further in developing beyond mud huts and dirty water. For ANYONE to want any of these things to happen is to put it bluntly being irresponsible. These "save the illegal" people are like the people who feed the bears at Yellowstone National Park. They think they are helping the poor hungry bears, but in reality they are going against nature and are bringing the early deaths to these bears and to probably some innocent ignorant citizen who thought it was great to feed these bears.
Keep thinking it is great to aid illegal aliens people. Your are doing an injustice to them and your town, and country.

Joe Rizoli

I am against illegal immigration, but I am for a more complex assessment of its causes and effects. I think every immigrant has a separate story, and these cannot be generalized for the sake of argument. Therefore I am for spending the money (taxes) to deal with the problem more intelligently--not in terms of generalizations such as Joe provides ("their families fall apart, they come here 'through' adultery and prostitution, their communal brain is drained" etc.) but in terms of individuals. This will cost money in the short term, but may save more money in the long term, and actually benefit us and others by establishing a good pathway to productive citizenship and keeping out the undesirable, criminal element.

David...These people are part of a slave trade....Just ask them what they paid to get here. They've been duped to come here.
Someone is making a lot of money on them. Plain and simple....
Jim@ccfiile.com

I have talked to groups of illegals and they all owe someone money for bringing them here and getting them jobs and a place to live. Dave nolta, you are for illegal immigration so stop trying to hide it.

I tend to agree with David that it doesn't make sense to stereotype and paint a population with one broad brush, but I do believe in many ways that illegal aliens, no matter what their nationality, are in a no-win situation. Many are desperate and do need to borrow money to get here as Jim says. There is support for them to get here, whether by "coyotes" or our government's "wink wink, nudge nudge" policies toward immigration reform. I believe that Jim is on to something, that when these people leave their homes and families, work grueling hours and live the way they do, it can create social problems in their communities, however, Americans under stress are just as capable of using drinking and violence as coping mechanisms. Multinational corporations, corrupt governmental institutions and unchecked capitalism have depleted and ruined their natural resources and enslaved their people, and that sort of thing is making its way to our country. People can demonize them if they like because they look different, but they are us, being used up and tossed around by the same forces. Americans need to pay attention to where our goods are coming from. What are the labor and environmental standards in those places? They need to elect leaders who make the right decisions, not these free trade agreements that just let rich people get richer at the expense of the poor and environment.

Mark, I haven't seen Dave say anything that supports illegal immigrants. To suggest that he does is just idiotic. I agree with him in that the solutions to the problem of illegals don't rest in the hands of the Rizollis (who seem to think any nonwhites are illegal or at least 90% of them are) and Guidos (who advocate vigilante violence) of our society.

If you remember Daniel Tacuri, he was arrested by the feds in 2007. He was the head one bringing these people over and giving them work. And I know there are more like him, and if I know it then our elected officials no it too. Why is it that we keep turning a blind eye?

Danielle....You are right in the fact our trade relations have a lot to do with the way things are.
Cooperation's go into their countries and completely take over giving these people nothing to live on, while they destroy their ecology.. Then the illicit slave trade comes in to ship these poor folks here, as they have no hope where they live.
They are the ball being tossed back and forth.
I don't think illegals by themselves plot it this way but I do think they are made by force to act in harmony with the slave traders wishes.
What we have here is a full blown modern slave trade and towns like Milford, Framingham, Marlboro, have been set up as Work Camps.
The problem is many are profiting from this and no one wants to talk.
I can expose the whole thing but the press has not bothered to ask the right questions. They always turn this into a racial thing.
This has nothing to do with race, as all nationalities can be part of this slave trade.
I can explain the whole thing even more if the press is willing to talk.
Lets not forget who delivers their newspapers....LOL
I'm not against the illegals themselves just the systems that exploit them.
I actually feel sorry for them, and it pains me to see all this happening without any noticing the whole picture.
This is crux of the matter..and you can take that to the bank!
Jim@ccfiile.com

Let's cut through the conspiracy theories for a minute. There is probably a modicum of truth to some of your assumptions. Cutting through all of the emotions that flair up everytime a crime is committed in the community, the crux of the problem is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. When a huge number of people, estimated to be upwards fo fifteen million, ILLEGALLY enter a country, it puts a stain on the facilities that are supported and maintained by the citizens of that country. When people start to feel it in the pocketbook the tempers and emotions start to flare-up. That's when the conspiacy theories, name calling, and hate letters start. Where does the blame lie? How about a government and politicians who close their eyes to the problem? How about law enforcement who are told to do nothing until a crime is committed? How about religious groups and cities that provide sanctuary in the name of charity and helping their fellow man/woman? How about those who are profiting from the misery of these people? Tough questions, but it has to start with you the citizens by hounding your elected officials to stop ignoring the problem.

Mary......they don't kill you or harm your family if you don't pay back your loan.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Agreed. We have been fighting this since 2003. It has been a rough road.
Illegal immigration is immoral. Its web goes to every crack of society. Ultimately it hurts everyone in the end.

Joe

Since we agree that illegal immigration is immoral, perhaps you can see why I mind when your brother and Mr. Cain, casually and contrary to the evidence, accuse people of supporting it. For all that you and your Framingham cabal care about the issue (that I do not doubt), you treat it like some sort of personal ammunition against anybody who questions anything you say about it. Go up and read the posts above.

Myd....show us where we have ever said all non whites are the problem?
Like I've said several times it's not about race.
Jim@ccfiile.com

David.....you are a good man, you just understand the slave trade part of it
Our towns are the work camps. We have to shut down the work camps, and half the battle will be over.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Myd.....thanks for the link to Framingham, Mary wouldn't allow me to do it.
Jim@ccfiile.com

If there was someone bringing them here and forcing them to work off their debt...there would be steady work. Many of them drift from one roofing company or comstruction company to the next. The families that I know do not owe money for coming over here as the coyotes require payment before they get here. It may be different for other groups as the majority of families I know are from Ecuador. I did not say that they are not hurting families and communities by coming here - just that they BELIEVE that they are creating a better future for their families. I am not supporting illegal immigration but I do believe that people should know more than just anti-illegal propaganda.

Concern..You can't say I'm promoting this propaganda as everything I'm saying is 100% true. Prove me wrong.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Jim, wouldn't you agree that the work here isn't to prove you wrong, but to find solutions to problems we all share? "All" in the local sense, "all" in the global sense? And in this respect, your understanding of the problems comes off as very biased, consequently unconvincing, and often a bit frightening? And as for your solutions...

David....Are you kidding me? I have the solutions.....which are commone sense, unbiased, very convincing and not frightning at all.
Go after the businesses that hire the illegals and they won't come here!
Case closed! If the popcorn is there the birds will come.
How complicated is that?
Oh, by the way.....I thought YOUR selectmen were going to follow up on the citizens concerns about the illegal alien problem in the town.....
Hmmmm.....I guess they must of forgot! Maybe they think all the illegals have gone home......
Who do I blame for this.......the people in the town for not pressing the issue.
You are letting them get off easy on this one.
The Selectmen pretty much LIED to you. They are not doing a damm thing are they?
Jim@ccfiile.com

The families that I know....again, maybe different in different groups (I have mostly talked to Ecuadorean families), have the ability to move to and from wherever they want. Many of them move here from areas in New York or Connecticut and also move away to these places as they like. That sounds like some freedom to me.... Also, the coyotes are paid ahead of time by these families by others who are already here. Families save here to bring over brothers, sisters, older children. They send the money back to pay the coyotes before bringing others over. None of the families I know fear for the lives of their families due to inability to pay. Some of them send money back to care for children as well. I don't have FACTS...I have conversations. @Mary.... The majority of families I know do come through Mexico but not always as border jumpers. They also tend to stick to common areas by coming to stay with friends or family here (I actually know of many of them in Framingham as well). There primary language is Quechua and their second language is Spanish. They are typically fairly uneucated if they come from the mountains, the highest I have seen is a 6th grade education. Families from the city area typically speak Spanish and have completed high school.

David...Your trust of the police hasn't worked out so well for the town so far....
Three deaths in a few years. Yikes! Not to mention all the peripheral stuff going on.
I don't blame the police directly, but if they had this track record working for a big cooperation and they were hired to maintain law and order in the company, I would think they would of been fired by now. The company wouldn't take any excuses, just results.
The police basically are there to contain things. So do you honestly think they're containing things. They are expo facto.....when the damage is done they come on the scene, better known as collateral damage. I wouldn't feel to safe with that being the case.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Jim, in my own experience in Milford, the police have been vastly helpful. They have de-fused potentially dangerous and ugly situations over and over again. They cannot run around arresting people because you, Jim Rizoli, think those people look like they might be criminals (remember that video? I'm sure you do). Nor is it for you, Jim Rizoli, to define what the police "are there" to do. "Ex post facto" is the phrase--and I know how you hate it when I say anything about spelling or grammar, but I really think it would help YOUR arguments if you paid a little more attention to that--seriously, I am honestly trying to help you when I make such a suggestion! Clarity will help you! (And remember, "of" never follows "would" ... )

David....The police are doing great job! As the body count keeps adding up.
Whatever they have to do to stop the body count, do it. What they are doing now is NOT working. Maybe we need Abe Lincoln's No Habeus Corpus here.
jim@ccfiile.com

Mary, speaking not for Jim but about Jim. What has Jim been TRYING to do? He's run for Selectmen twice. State Rep twice. He's a Town Meeting member now, Precinct chair precinct 14. He's on the Ways and Means Committee, one of the MOST important committees in the town. He was on the overcrowding committee established BECAUSE of the illegal immigrants in the town. He's been interviewed by most of the local TV stations about the Illegal Immigration problem. He has been part of our TWO cable shows totaling six hours of play time per week talking about the issues dealing with illegal immigration and other ill's of our town not to mention our country. Been interviewed by NPR radio, Brazilian TV, that was sent out to over fifty million people. Brazilian newspapers. He and I have made KNOWN our views on what to do to start to fix the Illegal alien problem in our town MANY times but our message to the fix has been IGNORED. We have educated the public since 2003 on HOW the Illegals come here to the point where the newspapers finally started listening to us in articles written years later.
NOBODY believed us when we talked about the money these immigrants spent to come here. They laughed, they are not laughing now. We have never BEEN PROVEN WRONG IN ANYTHING we have said. NOW towns like Milford and Framingham are suffering the consequences of deaths and the monetary up keep to deal with the problem. He has been to the courthouse seeing the revolving door policy to the Illegals......

continued....
In going to the court he has found out that the courts do NOT care about the immigration status of these people who get caught for insurance and license violations. They are slapped on the wrist, paying a 300 dollar fine and let go to drive again or leave the area under another assumed name and license. Probably 60% of the courts cases dealing with license violations are because of illegal immigrants. This is causing a huge burden for the court system and obviously a financial problem for the Commonwealth. That's what Jim has learned from going to the courts not to mention the Domestic problems the illegals are having also in our courts with each other.

So Mary what else do you want Jim to do? Most here on this PATCH just post and get writers cramp. We have been out in the trenches and all some can do here is insult our grammar, spelling and tone. When it gets to that point you know we have made our point and it can't be disputed. We joined the Milford PATCH trying to encourage you all to get more involved and get your town of its behinds to do something. You can't blame the Rizolis for your towns inactivity in this issue. We are only trying to help you to do more. My brother and I have seriously stopped some of the things the Illegals wanted to do in Framingham. We had a Sister City program with Brazil that seems to have ended. Some of the major players for the Illegals are gone, moved out of town because of us. What more can we do?

Joe Rizoli

Mary....Jim here.....I've brought two articles to Town Meeting...one had to do with
businesses that hire illegals and the other how the slectemen should be more srtict on those who opens up a business in the town. The first one was to make sure businesses hired only workers that have been approved by the U.S. Govt. to work here. The second one was with making the Selectmen more strict on who they allowed to open up a business in the town.
Pretty straight forward artilces that would have put a damper on illegal aliens working in the town.
Believe it or not both articles were rejected!
So what do you want me to do stand on my head?
When TMMembers vote to alow illegal aliens to open a business up and hire illegals things to continue to work in a town...then all is lost....more.....

One victory of sorts was me working on the overcrowding committee, at least it brought attention to overcrowiding issues but the town officials on the board with me were very liberal on the issues and could of done more but they didn't.

To alleviate the overcrowding issue the town building dept did stepped up inspections. The overcrowding problem got so bad they had to intitute one side of the street parking, because the illegals had so many cars they made the streets impassible to emergency vehicles, snow plows etc.. when they parked on both sides.
What really lessen the problem was our being there to speak up against the illegals when they tried to influence others to allow their illegals activities to continue.
We would always be there to oppose them at every turn they made.
That made them uncomfortable and many ended up leaving.
So when the pressure was put on them things happen.
Of course the slump in the economy had a hand in this too.
So Mary...what can be learned here....just keep up the pressure and SPEAK out
when you see injustices in the town. We might be an Army of TWO but we accomplished a lot. if more of the town got involved it would of been even better.
All in all...it all falls down upon them as they will end up paying for it all, in the form of higher taxes, crime, and a host of other issues.
Jim@ccfiile.com

This is fascinating--fifteen years ago I worked successfully to have one-side street parking put in place on my street, but it had nothing to do with illegals--it had to do with cars. How does Jim know if a car is owned or operated by an illegal? In other words, how can anyone say that the traffic problem is due to illegal vehicles? Was this proved by the stepping up of inspections referred to here? But it was still a parking regulation that was effected, and due to traffic, and enforced for all, not only illegals, right? And when Jim's "army" goes "to speak up against the illegals"--how do they distinguish the illegals from the legals? These are serious questions. And NO, my asking them does not mean I am for illegal immigration. But I will say that there is far too much "they" and "them" in your post again, Jim. ("We would always be there to oppose them at every turn they made." "So when the pressure was put on them things happen." etc., etc.). Such behavior sounds reckless to me--how do you know you're targeting illegals? Do "they" stand up and say "we are illegals"? They haven't done that in Milford that I know of. And what is this "pressure" you exert? I mean, practically speaking, what does it consist of?

Ok, this thread has deteriorated from discussion of crime in Milford to a p---ing contest between two of Patch's heavy contributors. Time to end the discussion!

I don't always agree with Jim Rizoli, but I do believe he has stepped forward in his own town to try to make a difference. I know it has not made him a popular man, and I am not defending him here, but he has made his feelings known and acted on those beliefs.

I also agree this discussion has probably run it's course.
Unfortunately I am sure we will have another situation in Milford soon enough that we can all argue about. (groan)

Come on David. The parking problems in my opinion ARE the results of the "illegals". In Framingham in those wonderful parts of town where THEY live people were parking on the lawns. This was the result of THESE people living by the carloads in apartments in THESE area of Towns INCLUDING my area. So David stop this crap about how do we know who they are. The situations exist, it didn't happen overnight. A clean sweep needs to be done using the license readers . The police can easily do it but they are to lazy having coffee at Dunkin Donuts. I am sick of hearing you message "how do we know their illegal" crap. Our Town manager used that stupidity. How do you know when you're sick? You know David, the symtons are plain as day.
The people know who are in the neighborhoods. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Stop side tracking the issue
.
Joe

David....The citizens have to be more vocal. You have to call the illegals out on the carpet. When they open up a business you have to be there to stop them.
Illegals are prohibited from working in the U.S., so owning a business and hiring other illegals is definitely not right. So go to the Selectmen s meetings and see what businesses are coming into the town. Believe me you will get the picture of who is not illegal when they come before the board of Selectmen.
Having interpreters with them is a good sign.
In regards to parking we never had a problem before they came here, and please explain to me, what do I call them.
David......... the towns have pretty much lost the battle, but WE continue to fight the battle in the trenches.
I'd rather be fighting and losing than on my knees letting them hold a gun to my head
or in some cases a knife to my throat.
No surrender!
Jim@ccfiile.com

David...You're right again, as usual, there are NO illegals aliens anywhere. The cars just happened to appear in my dreams, the courts cases with all the illegals isn't happening either.

Here's the deal....If any of you folks from Milford want to get together and have meeting about this please get in touch with me.
I can rent out the library in Framingham or meet somewhere else, and we can have a pow wow to discuss it.
So far our towns haven't been so forth coming about it and we continue to have issues dealing with illegals. David you can come too, but you might be bored.
Sorry WE have to run....have an interview with a Boston University woman who wants to talk about immigration issues...again. Have done this several times with them.
Jim@ccfiile.com
508-875-0835

Jim, you see, you depend on a pretend David, one whom you've invented (like so many things), and one who, conveniently for your arguments, thinks there are no illegals. But I know that there are illegals, and I know that there are many problems caused and exacerbated by illegals, in my town and elsewhere. It's our methods, and our understanding of the law, and the complexity of the situation that we cannot seem to agree on. From everything I have seen (from that video on...), I must say that your methods seem unacceptable. You judge people based on looks and names, you "go after people" in a reckless way that sounds like bullying (and stalking...), you judge people based on instinct and without actual evidence, you advocate a lack of thoroughness in prosecuting offenders that is counter to legal procedure and to common sense, you claim a role and a history that are self-serving and imaginary, and you use religious quotations and fear tactics to try to convince people that you are always right. WHY?

No surrender is right!!!

David..we're at Macdonadls in Ashland as I type being interviewed.
Jim@ccfiile.com

To late, Jim ate a big Mac and now is hallucinating, he agrees with David Nolta on everything....You're right, there was something in that Big-Mac.

Jim and I got interviewed by a BU student involved in a Journalism class. We went through the whole gamett explaining the whole illegal immigrant story. I guess that web site of ours really comes in handy.... I actually audio recorded the whole hour and a half interview. I'll see if I can get it up online.

Joe Rizoli

FYI- I work at a real estate office in frankin and there is no way to tell when you rent a apartment to someone if they are here illegally or if they are here on a valid visa. Only immigration at the fed level has that info and it is not available for the public..

Jessi makes this comment:
>>FYI- I work at a real estate office in frankin and there is no way to tell when you rent a apartment to someone if they are here illegally or if they are here on a valid visa. Only immigration at the fed level has that info and it is not available for the public..>>

Nonsense, all YOU have to do is ask them. Is that too hard? They WILL tell you.

As to David let me ask you this. Two women are in McDonald's. They have head scarfs all around their heads even wrapped around their necks hanging down. What religion are they? More hints. They are talking like people from Iran or Iraq. what are they? You're right Dave, they are Southern Bells......NOT. They are Muslims.
You just judged a person by their looks. Believe me David it can happen with illegals. Unless it's you of course. You can't tell. Most of the time I can. I have a friend who is even more perceptive than me. His ex-wife is a Brazilian. He can tell a Brazilian woman just by mannerisms. It's incredible. So it can be done David, of course except by you.

Last point. You mention parking problems 15 years ago. Earth to David. We started our Immigration group in 2003. I have newspaper articles showing the Brazilians taking over our streets for soccer game wins in 1998. Add it up David. That was the PEAK of the illegals in the area for them, Some say 65 a DAY came into Framingham,.... A DAY. So your CONCERNS about the parking fits OUR timeline almost to the year. Thank you.

Joe Rizoli

This comment:
>>And so it follows that it would be wrong for the local police, for instance, to target potential renters based on their surnames or appearance.>>

Absolutely true. But you can ask a simple question to these people. Are you a legal resident of this country? For businesses, do you as a business owner comply with the laws of residency and do your employees comply with all federal and state laws as to residency? Pretty simple David. It has nothing to do with what you look like. In Mexico the police can stop ANYBODY and ask them for their papers. If you are NOT in harmony with their rules as to being a LEGAL visitor of that country you can be deported immediately.

Same applies here. You have the right as the Declaration of Independence says to: "SAFETY" and "HAPPINESS":
Having Illegal Aliens run people over and murder and kill you does nothing for your SAFETY and HAPPINESS.

Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion;
http://www.immivasion.us/art4sect4/art4sect4.html

Joe Rizoli

Hmmmm, let me understand this....The illegals break all sorts of our LAWS and we can't ask them simple questions like what's up? Gee, we might hurt their feelings!
I'm curious whose country is this?
Yup...The foxes have taken over the Hen House....again.
No surrender....but it sure seems the battle is lost.
Jim@ccfiile.com

David is right that it is the federal government’s responsibility to address this. Trafficking of illegal drugs is also the responsibility of the federal government. Why do they allow local law enforcement to deal with drugs but not illegal immigrants? Answer – illegal immigrants have families here that can vote.

This administration has no interest in slowing the tide of illegal immigration. They want the votes. The republicans do not want to do anything about it either – they want cheap labor. In the meantime, we have thousands of people that don’t obey our laws and aren’t punished or held financially liable. Instead they are supported by social programs intended to support Americans.

I don’t know what to do about it other than vote against those that work against us. This problem will not be solved anytime soon.

UglyHat, pretty reasonable and well-stated, as usual, even if the simple fact of having family here doesn't explain the situation comprehensively from my point of view (I'm sure it plays a role, but I don't think that can be the only reason for the difference in enforcement policies you describe. I think that the fact that a majority of illegals are presumed to be engaged in less dangerous activities than, to use your example, drug trafficking, makes them less a priority for overworked police. Just my guess.). Though the Secure Communities program starts next year, right? And that should allow a little more leeway to the local authorities--accent on AUTHORITIES--not just anybody who feels like it... I for one do not want to have a bunch of numskulls running around vigilante-style and "cracking down" on people they don't like the looks or sounds of. Frankly that's worse than the behavior of most of the illegals I know about. I'm also glad you recognize this as a bi-partisan problem.